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>> this is "the journal" on dw- tv. the headlines at this hour. groups forced their way into tahrir square. =a monster storm scrap -- crashs into australia. one dead, hundreds injured. this is according to the country's health ministry. protesters are calling for the
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resignation of hosni mubarak. we are looki now at live pictures from iro. some made their way into tahrir square and started fighting with protesters. egyptian state television had coverage. what i happenin tre n? >> i talked to one activist who said he is a very shaken. he said the situation on the ground is much more horrible -- he is very shaken. there is already one dead, confirmed. the people there are terrified.
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they have been coming every day since these protests is -- protests started, and he said they were taking care to not bring weapons. they always searched people. they want peaceful change, and now there is violence. >> state television again is telling demonstrators to go home. do you think the army will step in and force them to leave? >> well, this is a question that we are all wondering, what the army is going to do. we have really watched this. we really do not know what they are going to do, but, you know, on the one hand, it could be a good sign, telling protesters to leave, telling the pro mubarak protesters to leave. that would be a good idea.
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>> there are suggestions that someone oil to mubarak did this to intimidate the activists -- some one loyal to mubarak. -- someone loyal. >> yes, we have heard this. thesemonratis ar very organized. you can see hundreds if not thousands of people streaming into the square. we have seen people coming on trucks, dozens of them on pickup trucks, people charging with camels and horses into the city. it seems to be very, very organized, and people have claimed that this is organized by the government, but, of course, you cannot confirm that. everybody is saying that. >> this has not scared them away. >> i think they will be staying put. at least, the hard-core people
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will be staying put. some are scared about friday, because really the protests are expected then. something people are getting more radicalized because of what happened to them today. >> this eruption of violence comes on the ninth day of demonstrations against the mubarak regime. we have this report on how the situation escalated on e streets of cairo. >> as night fell on the egyptian capital wednesday, pro and anti- government protesters were still there, throwing molotov cocktails. tensions were high in the afternoon. after days of peaceful protests at cairo's tahrir square, they clashed.
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the situation escalated after plain clothes police officers joined the fray. some drove in on horses and camels. one person was killed in the clashes, and hundreds of people were injured. many of the wounded were treated inside makeshift clinics inside a nearby mosque. >> many people are coming here. >> the opposition is also tired of mubarak, saying he needs to go now. >> all of his promises and declarations came too late. any kind of a seasoned politician will tell you that this man has no political sense. this man is stupid.
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>> the president's supporters took to the street, to counter the wave of anti-government sentiment, voicing their support. some have taken sides against the demonstrators. meanwhile, the military has called for the grounds -- crowds to disperse. appearing on television, an army spokesperson said the protesters had made their point and should get back to their normal lives, but the demonstrators are refusing to back down. opposition leader mohamed elbaradei called for mubarak to step down by friday. more chaotic days could be ahead in cairo. >> many won't leaders have expressed concern about the violence in egypt -- many world leaders have expressed concern. they say changing needs to take place in cairo now, and, quote,
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"now means now." >> i just spoke on the phone with egyptian vice president suleiman, and i reminded him about our position, then violence against people demonstrating peaceful is in no way reasonable. this transition just cannot take place at some point along the line. it has to begin now. >> and the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon, has also been speaking about the worsening crisis in egypt. david cameron condemned the violence in cairo. he said it would be unacceptable if it turns out the government is involved. he also urged egyptian authorities to speed up reforms.
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the u.n. secretary-general called for dialogue among all parties and warned against instability. >> i am deeply concerned about the continuing violence in egypt. i once again urge restraint to all of the sides, anthiss very much an unacceptable situation that is happening. any attacks against the peaceful demonstrators is unacceptable. >> and for more, we are joined in the studio by an analyst. the community is stepping up the pressure after the violence we saw on wednesday, the international community. how do you think mubarak will respond? >> well, i do not think so much it is important how he will respond, but it is the arm the message of the day, change
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is imminent or should be imminent. it was very helpful for the development in egypt that the american president to express himself very clearly on the necessity of a change. i wish european politicians would find similar strong wording. >> all right, we will be back with you in just a moment, but first, this call for change across the area is being heard. one man said he will not stand for reelection, the president of yemen. he would also not give power to his son. this show of solidarity is a head of a huge planned anti- government rally planned for friday -- is a head -- is ahead of a huge planned anti- government rally planned for friday. do we expect similar
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developments to what we see in egypt, in men? >> in yemen, they have a very complicated history of two countries korea 19 -- uniting but not -- the country is also a almost bankrupt. -- also almost bankrupt. the oil riches of this country hasas come to an end, so therefore, this country has no moy left, and the tribes, they think, well, in that case, we go without friends. that is a real problem. there is no sense of government. he does not control much beyond the capital. >> thank you very much. so, tell us about how the markets are reacting. >> of course, there are going to
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be effects. the stock markets seem to have shed initial fears about the crisis. even the cost of insuring egyptian debt has decreased. trading was recovering, even in the arab world, but this was before the outbreak of the violence in cairo. shops remained closed. there is indeed increased nervousness in european markets. there was wednesday's trading from the frankfurt stock exchange. >> there is growing concern about the developments in the middle ea. of course,t is not leaving much of an impression on the investors, until the oil supply is disturbed in a big way that affects the world economy. people will stay quite relaxed. the dax trading well. there is more and more concerned
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about people who say that we have to admit that nervousness is increasing. the developments are cause for concern, and this helped the market back. the suez canal is in the area, and thatransrts important good the neighboring countries are a very important factor for the area. >> let's get a closer look at some numbers now. we start in frankfurt, where the blue-chip dax were up slightly. in new york, the dow jones industrials are currently going up. 12.054. egyptianare fighting for political changes in their country, but also for hopes it will improve their situation. although egypt is all in all not
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a poor country, welfare is not spread it evenly. many are living in poverty. addressing that problem is where the mubarak government sees its last chance. >> each ship's path to democracy could be seen and the price of bread -- egypt's path to democracy. this was an effort that was tried and failed in tunisia. other arab countries are also trying to use financial inducements to try to dig the wind out of the sales of protestors. -- to try to take the wind out of the sails of protesters. earnings are sent back home, which is used to cushion the hardships people face there. in dubai, abu dhabi, and saudi arabia, strong gains on
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wednesday. among the biggest, some of those who had come under pressure due to the egyptian crisis, but there is no telling how markets could react on thursday if the situation in egypt deteriorates any further. >> back to you, heather. >> thousands of people in queensland are being told to stay put, as a massive cyclone is coming their way. cyclone yasi has a wind gusts of up to 300 kilometers per hour -- has wind gust of up to 300 kilometers per hour. we spoke to someone in sydney and asked about how the situation is on the ground, if
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it is treacherous. >> it is certainly in queensland, and the eye of this storm has, a ground, in a community north of queensland. however, the full extent of the damage has yet to emerge. winds have been gusting up to 290 kph. it has been damaging buildings, causing blackouts, threatening lives, and this is a very popular tourist spot, too, you must remememr. there are some signs that the cyclone may be easing as it begins to move further inland. however, the other risk at the moment is caused by flooding, torrential rain, a tidal surge of up to 10 meters, which just happened to coincide with an unusually high tide, so we have the tidal surge along with the very, very strong winds. >> how are they dealing with that in queensland? the state has recently just been
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hit with flooding. >> yes, the emergency services are placing a lot of -- are facing a lot of major challenges. they have not gone out during this cyclone because it is just too dangerous to do so, with debris flying around. immediately, daylight breaks, and it looks like the cyclone is beginning to ease, they will be out, clearing up, and the government has sent 4000 soldiers, and they will go out and assist in the cleanup operation, but, certainly, there is a big job ahead of them, it looks, but as justsaid now, the full extent of the damage, of what has happened, will not really emerge for some time to come. >> and that was roger speaking to us earlier from sydney. you are watching "the journal" on dw-tv.
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we will be backdw-tv.
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and on the internet. >> welcome back. hosni mubarak has ruled egypt for three decades, and now, his final months have plunged into chaos. he promised yesterday not to stand for reelection, but that was not enough for protestors who wanted him to leave now. his supporters have entered the fray, and central cairo became the stage for violent clashes. officials say one person has been killed, and more than 600 have been injured. witnesses say shots were fired in the air, but the army is denying that it's people fired any weapons. there are also reports that molotov cocktails were thrown at an egyptian museum. the u.s. has condemned the outbreak. tahrir square, or liberation
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square as it is called in english, has been the main staging ground for anti- government interests. it was renamed after the 1952 revolution and the new monarchies. egyptians from all walks of life have been gathering there to force mubarak out of office, and it also has become the focal point between the supporters and opponents. >> central cairo, near the ght ba of the ninth. -- nile. this is where the liberation square is located, tahrir square, and there is the egyptian museum. in the afternoon, supporters of president mubarak gathered. eir goal? regain tahrir square. they passed by the egyptian museum in the thousands.
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the army gave them a wide berth, even though it was clear what would happen. the mood was tense. #>> we are the stability of the country. as you see, people are supporting president mubarak. he is the leader, and he is the symbol of egypt. >> we will be humiliated. do not leave us. do not leave us. >> that was the sentiment among the pro mubarak demonstrators. the anti-government demonstrators were determined not to give an inch. they had come well prepared. some more on horses or camels, armed with metal rods. pass in the museum, they bore down on the square. the demonstrators put up a fight. after a week of peaceful protests, chaos broke out in
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liberation square. street battles ensued. in the middle was the army, but they did not intervene. they just stayed, guarding the museum. the demonstrators managed t t push back the probe will bark mob, but neither -- to push back the pro mubarak mob. nearby, mosques or hastily converted into a field hospitals to treat the wounded from both sides -- into field hospitals. after nightfall, it was hard to get a clear picture of the event unfolding. others occupied a building across from the egyptian museum, and some threw molotov cocktails.
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in the confusion, it remained unclear which groups some belonged to. >> we are joined now in the studio. let's take a look back at wednesday's event, because this is really the point where events took a turn for the wars. do you think that it was a rogue elements behind this violence, -- event took a turn for the worse. do you think that it was rogan -- rogue elements? >> some of jobs that the government gave to them. most egyptians, some people laugh profited from him. we saw these people writing in to tahrir square on camels. this is almost an absurd scene. unfortunately, it appears this man is willing to destroy the
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whole country rather than stepping back, and this is a rather volatile and dangerous situation. >> he did say he would not be standing for reelection in september. do you think that most egyptians believed that is the most they can do at this point? >> i think most demonstrating hope they can achieve more, but it is noentirely clear what the ar will decidever the next few days. also, egyptian economists are very worried about the ongoing developments, because should these riots continue, it will be very difficult for the egyptian economy to keep on booming, as it did over the past month, so there will be pressure in the business circles, but politicians, and even the majority of the army, probably, to do something, to go ahead and take him out of office, but the next day's could become really bloody, because it seems that mubarak has his own forces that
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will mobilize. >> -- the next day's could becoe really bloody. >> -- >> there is not a feeling of him doing any public good to the country. let us not forget that his family has stolen approximately $40 billion of the egyptian treasury. this is really a huge amount. egypt isq a poor country. half of the population lives right about the property or below the property -- poverty line -- half of the population lives right about the poverty line or below it. >> now, mohamed elbaradei, who is kind of leading the opposition, he has asked the military to intervene.
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do you thinkhat will happen? >> president mubak istill one of them. he was still their boss until one week ago, we could say. their fear of turning against him, as they see it as an act of loyalty. for 30 years now, they have been his close associates, and they really do not have the guts, the will, to do away with him. it is extremely important that the american president made it clear that this is now really time for a change in egypt. there is an envoy from the united states presently in cairo. >> the united states has changed its rhetoric on mubarak. do you think that will make a difference? >> yes, i think it is very important on a psychological level. there is a question of what to do with a bargain when to move against him.
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the more pressure that comes from the outside, the more difficult it will be for the supporters for him to plan for m to stain oice. it ve good that the americans did that, a little bit too late in my view, but, nevertheless, mr. obama did the right thing. we will see if the european leaders are willing to follow. >> thank you very much. we will wind up the day's events in egypt. there was a clash in cairo. 600 people were injured. one person is reported killed. the egyptian vice president has called for protesters to go home and observe the curfew as a precondition for political dialogue. you are watching "the journal" on dw-tv. please stay with us.
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